Excuse me, but as I recall, the guy who said that vaccines cause autism in the first place admitted that he made the whole thing up. Furthermore, scientists here have proven that vaccines have no link at all with autism. The scientific community overwhelmingly agrees that vaccines and autism have no link whatsoever.
Your child was already autistic. It’s genetic, and just recently, another autism-related gene has been found. You already had an autistic child who happened to get a vaccine around the same time the symptoms started showing. That’s a coincidence of our chosen timing, and your child would still be autistic, vaccines or not, or even if they had gotten vaccines at another point in time.
I have to reblog this to address this person’s response.
- who is this guy who made it all up?
- not all cases of autism are directly caused by genetics. Even if there is evidence to prove this, that evidence would be looking at the cause of autism, or any other scientifically-perceived “disorder” from a specific tunnel-vision perspective. One can argue that any health challenge people face is caused by genetics. It’s a slippery slope argument because then you would support the conclusion that no one should receive healthcare, medicine, or services to support people who may be born with or may develop diseases, cancer, infections, or disorders that puts them in a disadvantage in a world that tries to separate them from a society that can’t handle them. if you do, that’s fine. to each their own.
- yes, we’ve heard the same counter-argument over and over again: scientists prove there is no link between autism and vaccines. however, by blindly believing sources citing that scientists disprove the link, you ignore the politics of the medical community. the pharmaceutical industry profits in the billions by vaccinating people. it’s a big business, and the last thing they want is someone proving that one of their most profitable products might actually cause a neurodevelopmental challenge that now affects 1 in 110 children. There was a recent case where a doctor allegedly proving the link between autism and vaccines was considered a fraud, an accusation he strongly denies. so you see, not all scientists (doctors are scientists too) believe that there is no link.
- injecting a newborn child, with a weak, developing immune system, with a dozen vaccines within a short amount of time, and on top of that being prescribed antibiotics. is that really safe? to protect from other possible diseases that may or may not occur? it’s like taking a pill with dozens of side effects to cure just one thing. i’d rather deal with the one thing or find natural alternatives to help.
we cannot continue to blindly accept the fact that every single vaccine given to us is for a greater good. There is poor evidence to support this fact (swine flu; flu vaccines)
- This guy. The original study is an “elaborate fraud.”
- Are you kidding me? Just about every family I know, including my own, affected by autism has some family history of it, diagnosed or not. They at least have a family history of other developmental disorders. Genes have been found linked to autism. It’s undoubtedly genetic.
- Oh please. Alternative medicine now? To paraphrase Tim Minchin, alternative medicine has either not been proved to work or been proved not to work. When alternative medicine has been proved to work, they call it medicine. Big Pharma is also a myth. Pharmaceutical companies are not swimming in cash, contrary to popular belief.
- Yes, it’s safe, and it saves lives from dying young of preventable diseases. Someone doesn’t understand how vaccines work. They are rendered harmless just so the immune system can make antibodies for it. They very rarely result in any complications at all.
sanityscraps is awesome and has a lot more patience with this person than I would. I find anti-vaxxers to be generally beyond the reach of reason, and I hold them personally responsible for the recent outbreaks of measles and whooping cough that have killed young children. Your ill-informed crusade is killing children, you selfish assholes.
But just to jump on this bit: however, by blindly believing sources citing that scientists disprove the link, you ignore the politics of the medical community. the pharmaceutical industry profits in the billions blah blah blah blah I’m bored now. People’s conceptions of how the medical community works are just completely off the wall, this assumption in particular. The vast majority of medical research is conducted at academic institutions through government grants, where the pharmaceutical industry has very little if any input. There are rules about disclosing ties to industry when you publish to a medical journal. You cannot publish without full disclosure of your professional relationships including especially any money that has changed hands. They are incredibly strict about this. So all of those papers investigating the supposed link between vaccines and autism? Unless they specifically list a pharmaceutical company’s involvement, none of the authors of the paper have anything to do with the pharmaceutical industry. Much less made piles of money from distributing vaccines.
Medical research is extremely unprofitable, actually. I should know, I’ve been doing it for 10 years. You have to beg and plead for money at every turn for materials, space, employees, everything. Constantly. If you get the money one year, the next year you have to ask for it again. Your pay is entirely dependent on whether the National Institute of Health feels like giving you money. And you don’t get paid some kind of prize for publishing a paper or profit from the results, unless you go off and patent something you discover (and that’s awfully rare). Most doctors who do research have to also do full-time doctoring on the side because they don’t make any money running a research team, even if they’d much prefer doing just research. I’ve done clinical duties as well, just because the grants couldn’t cover me full-time.
You know what does make loads of money? Pimping alternative medicine cures that never have to be proven, aren’t monitored, and don’t even have to actually work for it to be sold over and over again.
You know who intended to make money from “vaccines cause autism” research? Andrew Wakefield. Who made up the original paper that caused the vaccine scare, falsified his research and got his medical license pulled for it.